Fw: Land and cattle prices.

From: David & Barbara Clayton (barbclay@dcsi.net.au)
Date: Thu Feb 02 2006 - 22:01:39 EST


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Greetings everyone,

In 1986 when we bought this farm, the money we paid for it would have =
bought about 170,000 NAB shares. If we sold out tomorrow we could,at =
best, buy only about 60,000 NAB shares. I wish........I wish..........

Regards,
David Clayton
Warragul

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    From: vikki templeton=20
    To: vicdairy-l@unimelb.edu.au=20
    Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 6:59 PM
    Subject: Re: Land and cattle prices.

    Hello all,

    Just on Tim's point on land values and cattle prices.

    The higher price of land has allowed a lot of farmers to at least =
walk away from the industry with some money in their pockets. It also =
means that the new owner of that property has to also get another 30% =
return on his investment from the same farm that the last fella =
struggled to justify keeping on it's value.

    That is for a $1,000,000 farm to be viable against bank interest, it =
needs to generate at least $60,000 return at 6%. The new farmer, same =
farm, now worth $1,300,000 has to generate a return of investment of =
$78,000. Pretty hard task when costs keep rising no matter how efficient =
the new farmer is, for that farm to generate another $18,000 to justify =
its worth as a business.

    In regards to cattle prices lifting, is probably due to the lack of =
replacements, thanks to the export job.

    What is going to happen when that nice little side order is no =
longer going to be available as an income prop?

    Thanks

    Vikki

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In 1986 when we bought this&nbsp;farm, =
the money we=20
paid for it would have bought about 170,000 NAB shares. If&nbsp;we sold =
out=20
tomorrow&nbsp;we could,at best, buy only about 60,000 NAB shares. I=20
wish........I wish..........</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David Clayton</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Warragul</FONT></DIV>
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    href=3D"mailto:vtempleton@iprimus.com.au">vikki templeton</A> </DIV>
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    all,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><FONT face=3DArial =
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    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: =
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    it needs to generate at least $60,000 return at 6%. The new farmer, =
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    $78,000. Pretty hard task when costs keep rising no matter how =
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    new farmer is, for that farm to generate another $18,000 to justify =
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    <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><FONT face=3DArial =
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    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">In =
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