At 8:16 PM -0500 8/3/00, Robert B. Waltz wrote: >On 8/3/00, Leif Silli wrote: > >[ ... ] > >>My little problem is this, Fred: I don't understand what your decision >>is. I would like you to draw up some examples of what should be >>concidered transgressions and what should be concidered allowed. How >>could you know that NW in year 2000 should be able to read emails >>delivered as files in the Finder when you opened your list back in >>internet stoneage? Yet, that's what has happened. If this is supposed to >>be the kind of list you say, your ban on discussing this issue here makes >>my wonder what you concider on topic. >> >>Since I can't see the logic here, you better give some examples or work >>your house tidying idea better out. (Especially I wonder if you makes any >>difference between >> >>In my view NE is clearly on topic. Another issue is that it take up so >>much space right now that. So perhaps it would be good -for that reason- >>to make another list. > >I think the example is quite obvious: If it relates directly to using >NisusWriter, it counts. So a question about "How do I use Nisus >to get NESY to do such-and-such?" is perfectly valid. If the >question is purely about NESY, though, it's irrelevant. > >Admittedly the question isn't always asked in terms of Nisus. >But the comments about ICWord do answer a Nisus question: >"How do I, a Nisus user, view Word documents?" > >It's a clear, simple rule, to my mind. (Truth to tell, I find your >example much harder to understand. How can a question about NESY -- >not Nisus and NESY; a question about NESY -- possibly be relevant >to a list about NisusWriter? Would you ask a question about Excel >on a list devoted to Word?) Leif, Bob's message answers your question about list content. If your message is about using NESY with NisusWriter, it's on topic. If your message is about opening Cyberdog files with NisusWriter, or reading from a Eudora mailbox with a NisusWriter macro, it's on topic. If the message is about using iLiner with NisusWriter, it's on topic. If, however, your message is about importing a Eudora mailbox into a FileMaker Pro database, this is the wrong list. If your message is about FileMaker Pro being hands down better than MS Access, this is the wrong list. Trying to decide which monitor would work better with your Mac? Wrong list. Any clearer? To my way of thinking, this is very simple. Why post a message on a NisusWriter list about buying hardware? With all of the content-specific mailing lists and newsgroups, you'll get more hits on a list devoted to the discussion of computer hardware. You might get a couple of opinions here, but you should consider it a fluke if you get expert information on monitor pitch. However, you'll get expert information about solving a NisusWriter macro problem here. You wouldn't really think of asking a NisusWriter macro question on the Linuxppc list would you? In response to Raymond's >Now came Fred, the mythology. The first time I have heard about >him, or may be the first time I have noticed that he exists, is >now. Fred tells us that in his house he will not >host those who do not play his game. Is his house is ours any more? Yep, I'm a myth: http://www.tidbits.com/iskm/iskm3html/pt1/ch03/ch03.html and search for Fred Terry. I've spent most of my time in the background managing the details of the list. I use NisusWriter every day, but I don't consider myself the expert that some of the rest of your are. Now about your comment >I have to say that this attitude that it is we - the NE users - that >have to clean the house and find us another place to live, is not >responsible at all. It might be that NW have become such a rich and >usable program that it isn't room for all its uses and misuses on >one list anymore. But putting it that way is something else than >saying that NE is an off topic matter. Because clearly it is not. Shrug. We just disagree. I've always said, and included in the sign up info, that the list is about NisusWriter. The folks on the list who have fussed here and to me privately are complaining about messages that don't have anything to do with NisusWriter. I'm not making any comment about whether or not NESY is good; I'm just calling for a halt to off topic posts. I actually thought I was taking the right path by letting everyone police themselves instead of switching the list to moderated mode and rejecting all postings that were off topic. But I've already discussed this more than I said I would. pf
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