Re: What is this list for?

From: Gary Niemeier (gary@GAFFANEYS.COM)
Date: Fri Aug 04 2000 - 01:45:27 AEST


Fred, thanks for taking a stand on the list. I've only recently joined, and
I've been discouraged by the sheer number of off-topic posts, or personal
posts that are thoughtlessly broadcast to the entire list. I was only a few
days away from quitting until I read your email. I'm willing to put in the
time to make this an informative and entertaining list (my areas of strength
are macros & search+replace) -- as long as it stays on target and actually
offers helpful information on using NisusWriter.

Gary Niemeier



Fred Terry wrote:

> Bing bing bing, Bob has it right. When I assumed ownership of this
> list in the late 80s or early 90s (you could look it up in
> Engst's Internet book), Nisus was the name of the program. I
> revised the sign up info later when the name of the pgram changed
> to NisusWriter. I won't be modifying it again. You have unfortunately
> caught me in a very grumpy mood.
>
> I don't buy the argument that just because Nisus Software creates
> an app it should be discussed on this list. I also don't buy the
> argument that Nisus users should be allowed to talk about everything
> and anything on this list that they want to just because they are
> a community. This list is for the discussion of NisusWriter.
>
> My apologies to all of the long-suffering list members who have put up
> with this while I let it run amok. My extreme apologies to all
> of the list members who gave up on me and left. I kept thinking
> that I could set up a list explicitly for you guys, but it really
> is just beyond my time right now. So the simplest solution for me
> is to steer this list back to where it is supposed to be. If you
> are one of the members that want a different kind of list--one
> about Nisus Email or relflections of the Nisus community members--
> please feel free to create one. You have my sympathies in advance.
>
> I have two options. I can either moderate the list and reject all
> postings that are off topic (that is, not about Nisus, the older
> version of NisusWriter, or NisusWriter). Or you guys can moderate
> yourselves.
>
> I am not accepting discussion about this. I have already made
> up my mind.
>
> pf
> list owner
>
> At 9:39 AM -0500 8/3/00, Robert B. Waltz wrote:
> >On 8/3/00, Benjamin Cramer wrote:
> >
> >[ ... ]
> >
> >>I don't know what Erik's quotation of the entire subscription reply was
> >>meant to point out - I didn't find anything that made the intention of
> >>the list any clearer than the portion Frazer already quoted.  But, I
> >>disagree with Frazer's interpretation of "A discussion list for Nisus &
> >>NisusWriter".  It seems NisusWriter is specifically mentioned as a topic,
> >>but Nisus is mentioned as well.  It seems that if we are to discuss the
> >>company, Nisus, that implies that discussion of any software designed
> >>and/or marketed by Nisus is fair game, as is the company's general market
> >>strategy.
> >
> >Just as a note: When I first started using a certain word processor,
> >it was Nisus (version 2.something), and produced by Paragon Software.
> >
> >So, for old fogeys like me, the description "Nisus and NisusWriter"
> >means old and new versions of a particular word processor.
> >A clearer statement (e.g. "Nisus Software and its products," or
> >"The word processor now known as NisusWriter") would *really*
> >help. It would either clearly open the list to NESY, or (my
> >personal hope) definitively make NESY off-topic.
> >--
> >Bob Waltz
> >waltzmn@skypoint.com
> >
> >"The one thing we learn from history --
> >   is that no one ever learns from history."

--
Gary Niemeier
Dakota Book & Type
4300 Dartmouth Drive
Grand Forks, ND 58202
Tel. 701-777-6548
Fax. 701-777-2339
gary@gaffaneys.com



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