On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 08:35:05 -0400, Benjamin Cramer <truempyi@YAHOO.COM> wrote: >However, I have also had my eyes opened in another way. It seems >that there is a large contingent of people who like NW the way it is, >say that if NW isn't your app just dump it and get off this list, and >don't want to get into any real discussion of what might be >incorporated into NW to make it a competitor again. The more I've >paid attention to these posts, the more inclined I've become to >unsubscribe now and quit thinking about Nisus as a viable corporation >entirely. I have to keep reminding myself that this list is not >Nisus, and the folks at Nisus may have other plans - I'll wait until >NW6 to decide. I'd like to compliment you an a most sincere and enlightening post. I disagree however, when you say that this list is not (representative of) Nisus. Jerzy not only monitors this list he participates in it. No attempt is made by anybody at Nisus to moderate or guide the content. When posts (including my own) go way beyond off-topic no attempt is made to steer the list back on course. When members become offensive and rude with their remarks, nobody at Nisus intervenes. The list currently has 505 recipients less than 10% contribute regularly. I know for a fact that some of those that receive the list do so simply because unsubscribing is tedious. Others do not post for fear of being ridiculed. There are some who choose only to read those posts from members who can be relied upon to be entertaining or comic. To summarize, this list has lost it's direction. Some of you may counter this by saying, "Well, we're all waiting for NW 6, after it's released the list will get back on track." Sadly this is a weak excuse and unlikely to happen. To support this, I'd merely remind everybody of what happened here the last time Nisus released a new product (Nisus Email). The damage that has occurred here is irreparable. Members of the Adobe GoLive list have had to suffer an *interminable* delay for an update. Immediately after the acquisition of Golive the list had a strong Adobe corporate presence. The Golive list has *never* resorted to the type of personal jibes and sarcasm that is pervasive here. Any post that even hints it could spark a flame war is curtailed not only by moderators but by other *list members*. A person that persists in antagonizing others is summarily kicked off the list. Again some of you may counter this and say, "Hey! We're adults, we don't want or need policing on our list." This is not policing. It is ensuring that a strong corporate identity is maintained throughout all levels of the company and yes, this includes mailing lists. This list is a microcosm of that which is Nisus. It exists as a searchable archive and can be accessed by anyone. Theoretically every single word that all of us have put virtual pen to paper and posted here, can be read and re-read for eternity! The release of NW 6 is apparently imminent. If I were responsible for the success of this product and reaching a wider audience, I would make it a priority that this list reflected the image I wanted to convey to potential new users. I would want this list to make users feel welcome and part of a community whose sole purpose is to help each other in becoming adept in using my product. If I could not accomplish this then I would redirect my efforts and do everything possible to distance my product from the list or even better... have it shut down completely. -- N. Nic Hamnett | nic@therss.com.hk
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